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Analogues Episode 5

July 16, 2009


In this episode we talk about Transformation stories, sites, and authors with our special guest Lilac AKA Azimuth

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    July 16, 2009 7:57 pm

    That was one of the better episodes i’ve seen, it seemed better organized and better edited. I also learned a couple of TF sites i didn’t know before. As for any reality TV shows that may be improved by TF, i think maybe Survivor may be improved a little. Perhaps the losers instead of being sent off the island get transformed into something like a shark or snake, something the other survivors would have to deal with

  2. July 17, 2009 1:55 pm

    Hey guys, awesome podcast!

    Can one of you drop me a line at the e-mail included with this comment? Nothing major, I’d just like to chat about some things. 🙂

    Thanks, and keep up the great work.

  3. July 17, 2009 4:14 pm

    What’s killing TF literature in terms of quality is the increase of fanfic-stlye stories (ie pokemon/digimon). The majority of authours who chose to write TF solely for that reason can’t even spell their own name, because they’re still at the age where their parents wont even let them onto the street to play, let alone compose a piece of literature to within a mildly competent degree. In my eyes, it’s a f***ing disgrace.
    As for the “pay to read” scam (and it is a scam) run by the two gibbons at TFX. I’d be better off reading one of my own and burning a wad of £20 notes, using my spare hand to masturbate across the screen, occasionally slapping the computer and telling it how worthless it is.
    Call it a harsh assesment, but that’s what you get from someone who believes in sharing their art and literature for nothing, taking the occasionalt praise of constructive piece of criticism as payment enough. I don’t feel the need to whore my keyboard out, thank you very much.

    • July 18, 2009 5:35 am

      I’m not sure why only fanfic stories conjure this image of early teens spewing words over screen and calling it art. It’s not because some sites refuse them; that’s generally for matters of copyright, but there seems to be a growing stigma about them on the basis of some people’s inability to write. Trust me, there’s plenty of bile in the original sector as well. The quality of TF is caught up in the same boat as everywhere else online. Good edited collections can still operate just the same as they ever did – although, their work is likely to be harder now. See: what killed the TSA.

      I am interested in why TFx is a scam though – do they take money and give you nothing? I’m more than a little hesitant of the payment model, the design means not knowing what’s available for people when they acquire their credits. And hey, Lizardman owns the payment platform, for added.. something.

      • July 18, 2009 9:45 am

        Looking at the general idea of it is enough to spark me off. If I was to pay for a story or piece of art, then I’d go for a comission from someone. That way I’d know I’d be getting what I’d paid for. The whole idea of buying these credits makes me appreciate Waterstones (spits) a little more. At least with a proper book shop like that you have at least some guarantee of quality control in the hands of professional publishers. With TFX, there’s zero guarantee that what you pay for is equal or near to what you recieve in return. And excerpts are fine, as long as the rest of the material is of the same or greater quality that the proposal provided by the seductive style advertising should show. For all we know, the excerpt could be the only decent part.
        I have no plans to partake of their wares myself, but I will be interested to see just how many people will be honest enough to put their hands up and say if they genuinely feel they’ve been cheated. If not, and the praise is genuine, then hats off to them.

  4. July 18, 2009 9:21 am

    i must say this was a great show this one talking about what CYOC i know most of the stories you now see for Animal / Anthro TF’s have nothing but sex pretty much as for TFX i think it might not be a bad idea i know some people may not like it but the people who maybe have money to burn will buy the stories i think thats all i got to say for now.

  5. July 19, 2009 8:00 pm

    The movie where you had a boy and father change places usign a magical skull is called “Vice-Versa”

  6. July 19, 2009 9:40 pm

    I hear you when you encourage giving comments to artists/writers whose material you enjoy, but I believe Lilac also mentioned the value of constructive criticism. For me the pressure to provide valuable input along with the desire to not come off as a “know-it-all” seems to prevent me from commenting (which is why I value the mighty ‘fav’).
    Then there’s the actual thinking of something to say, for example with Lilac’s stories (which I have read and enjoyed) I would like to express how good I thought it was, but I don’t know enough to actually find flaws or places were there is room for improvement. So the only thing I can think to say is “Good story, keep it up”; but perhaps that is good enough?

    • July 20, 2009 11:52 am

      Ooh, thanks for your readership! I like to receive comments, faves, some sign people are out there is always nice – but my want of self-improvement does like to know what people think as well. In general I suspect constructive criticism is a much more appealing thought for other writers, who are at the stage where they put work out and there are clear things that can be done that people can identify. The main inroads of criticism I get nowadays is from magazines when I’m not taken up, and I understand it’s not an editor’s job to do that, so it’s not always much to go on. But it’s something, sometimes. 🙂

      A cross-example I didn’t get to make – because it’s art, and we were discussing stories – is with terminatorfan on Fur Affinity, whose art is indeed substandard, though for some reason this incites people to comment by launching into ad hominem attacks. Deconstructive criticism is just wasteful.

      Another consideration is when places have an air of consensual positive reinforcement; “if you can’t say something good, don’t say anything, or the backlash will eat you up.” Even constructive criticism might draw the ire of others in that circumstance, but development slows down then! Ah well, nothing’s perfect. I’ll do my writing, people will read it, and life will go on. ^^

      But generally I’ll hear anything someone has to say. I’ll exercise my writer’s privilege to disagree at every turn if that’s what I feel I should do, but it’ll be an interesting conversation in any respect. My beta readers are good at picking up things I can clarify. 🙂

  7. July 19, 2009 10:32 pm

    Thank you very much for including our new fledgling website.

    Some info that may have been forgotten is the items available for purchase are illustrated stories.

    Also newly decided to be posted is comics, Illustrated and colored pin-ups and single sketches available for free.

    Thank you so very much again!

    Krae and Lizardman

    P.S. Due to the my decision to delete my account on Transfur and the massive uproar that followed, I have had much support from great people. The customer base has grown incredibly. Thank you to all of you.


  8. September 6, 2009 9:08 am

    Thanks for including Shifti in the podcast. Once we figure where to put the link, we shall add a link to you.

    Though we are still small and have recently had some “growing pains” problems it is good to see this kind of linking coming in by surprise.

    (Host/Administrator of Shifti)

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